#8: Forgiveness

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In This Episode of The Say The Word Podcast

We’re talking about:

  • how story can both spotlight our gaps and invite us to fill them

  • an excerpt from Min Jin Lee’s Pachinko

  • loss, hope, and what it means to forgive

Here’s where the action’s happening in today’s episode:

  • [00:46] - welcome

  • [01:02] - 2 requests for you!

  • [01:42] - the impact of story

  • [02:31] - a spotlight on what I didn’t know

  • [04:33] - an excerpt from Min Jin Lee’s Pachinko

  • [06:01] - loss and hope

  • [07:34] - Tali Sharot’s optimism bias (watch her TED Talk )

  • [08:24] - our “stupid" hearts

  • [09:52] - revisiting the last two sentences

  • [10:12] - who’s on the receiving end?

  • [10:51] - the other side of the coin

  • [12:12] - what does forgiveness mean?

  • [12:55] - the three sides to the forgiveness triangle

  • [15:51] - Hector Black’s The Moth story

  • [17:11] - where to begin

  • [18:23] - forgiveness as a practice

  • [20:02] - Meredith H.’s quote from The Fates and The Furies

  • [21:08] - what’s coming up next week

You can find your copy of Min Jin Lee’s Pachinko HERE and all the books mentioned here on the podcast in my curated Bookshop list here.

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